Doug Responds to Billy in Big D's Special Report on Craig's List - Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Doug Seconds Billy's Massage Tips

I agree with Billy 100% and would like to expand on what he said.
I have had some problems with masseurs. These were from ads on Craig's list which like Billy said. You have to be careful. I contacted one guy in Denver a few months back. I always "interview" a prospective masseur either by phone or e-mail initially and phone before I make an appointment. I get very specific and I listen to his responses. If your constantly trying to read between the lines, I'd skip him.
Anyway we were both clear with what, when, where & how. He didn't give me an address however and I was skeptical. But I called on the morning the massage was scheduled as instructed and got no answer several times. No answers to e-mails either. He called back later the next day to apologize with some lame excuse. I told him to save it and hung up.
I would offer the following tips.
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If he doesn't have a phone contact, forget it
- If he doesn't respond in 12 hours, certainly within 24, forget him. Anyone running a business in 2009 can leave a voice message or auto e-mail that says he will be unreachable for the next 3 days, or week, or whatever.
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If he doesn't offer his address the day before your appointment, forget him.
Notice sometimes on sites like Masseur Finder.com that a guy will list himself in 2 or more categories. Pay attention. Sometimes his erotic is only available at a higher rate, or maybe you only get erotic with 90 minute bookings. (also more money)
Also there can be a fine line between sensual and erotic, and different people have different definitions, so like Billy says, be frank about what you want, especially anything specific. Imagine the shit that these guys get for requests. They've heard it all before, so don't be coy...or shy.
I have had situations when I arrived. Lets say I booked 60 minutes for $100. The guy will try to up sell erotic for $150. If this is a situation where you had already agreed on certain erotic elements and now its more expensive...WALK. If you hadn't mentioned it before then you can't blame the guy for trying. A lot depends on chemistry. If its there, you are both going to enjoy it. If it isn't, you won't. If there have been pics exchanged and you see something different (not minor stuff, but something major) I'd walk. Conversely, if he sees major differences in you, he's not going to be too happy.
I've had a lot of guys try to kick it into the fast track sexually. Don't let it happen. I agree you will almost always get cheated time wise. A good masseur, certified or not, will blend in some erotic during the first half hour while your face down. He should not be too aggressive about it. You should respond in kind if that is what you want, but don't let it take over. I've had guys that have an instant hard on and drop it in your palm while they are working. Some when they walk around the top of the table will make sure their cock brushes my head. Sometimes I ignore it. Sometimes I grab it for a few tugs. Sometimes I'll blow the guy for 20 seconds. A good masseur will even back off after that length of time and continue with the massage.
I had one guy that had no table when I showed up. He had me lie on the bed face up. Two things that are wrong right there. Within 30 seconds he was blowing me. I let that go on a minute or two. Then I thought 'no fucking way am I paying him just to blow me'. I pushed him off and told him the massage just ended. He didn't get a dime.
Once you are on your back and you both want it, go for it. but again, a good masseur is going to ramp it up slowly with real massage blended in. He's also going to finish the massage after release. I always get a head/face/neck massage from my regular guy after our breathing returns to normal.
One more thing. If ambiance is important , you need to ask about it up front. Guys in business should have a clean comfy spot inducive to relaxation with a bathroom for use that is equally clean. That doesn't always happen, and once you're there, its too late. I've had good massages from guys that live in dumps, but it does cut down on the overall ambiance of the massage. They just didn't inherit the good housekeeping gene. Likewise, if he is coming to you, its only right to make sure the room he works in is clean and tidy. Same goes for the bath and the kitchen if he's going to be in there. Some do for the microwave and storing water.
If all you want is sex. Then call a guy offering a massage for $30 or $40 bucks. He's going to rub your back weakly for 20 minutes and then blow you or ask you to fuck him.
The other thing I don't like is a perfunctory hand job at the end. That does nothing for me. You do feel cheated. If you had agreed on, and paid for, something erotic, that is not it. I'd pay him the lower rate.
I've been asked a few times. When/how much should you tip a masseur? The same standard applies if he was your waiter etc. Assuming he was beyond just good I am very generous with a guy that is working in a spa or in any situation where you know someone is grabbing a big chunk of his fee. I am less inclined with a guy that is pocketing the entire fee. I also base it ONLY on the therapeutic aspects of the massage. He's enjoying the erotic as much as you are. Especially if he charges more for it.
Trust your instincts, if something doesn't seem right or to your liking. Don't book, or just cancel. Better that than to walk away feeling cheated or you wasted your money.
















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My God Doug has this down to a science
Great tips. Thanks. Will utilize.
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Thanks for a well written and practical post. I wish I had known some of these pointers when I first started with sensual/erotic massage. Keep up with the good work.
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